Credibility and Gullibility – the Vaccination Question

[ “credibility”:  “the quality of being believed or accepted as true, real, or honest ” – sometimes not deserved!]

[ “gullible”:  “: “easily fooled or cheated; especially : quick to believe something that is not true“. Hence “gullibility” – ? degree of susceptibility to be “taken in” ]

vaccine2Abstract: Regarding a subject common to this blog, there exists an immense problem in assessing what we are being told, by experts of different backgrounds and persuasions, and our choices in what we should believe.

 Australian top scientist and medical association director, claim that the internet fosters vaccination myths, when in fact what they themselves say about Dr Wakefield and the vaccine – autism link can be shown to be proven myths.

Are we seeing ignorance, or bias, or deliberate misinformation to brainwash the public?

The ramifications of whichever reasons, are of considerable concern to all Australians.

Introduction: Commencing with the experts responsible for the information, the media responsible for publishing, and perhaps the journalists who convey the expert’s information. All surely have some responsibility for providing truthful and relevant information.

Many factors affect the end result, which may, or may not, turn out to be factual and unbiased information.

This post is triggered by an article, in the (Australian), ‘Sunday Herald Sun’. (28 June 2015). Photocopying was not successful so I repeat the contents here:

Move to educate on vaccination myths” by Jane Hansen.

Health experts have called for a public education campaign to convince parents to immunize their children.

Australia’s Chief Scientist,  Professor Ian Chubb, said the education program was needed to counter discredited research that is contributing to parents failing to vaccinate their children and is causing the upsurge of deadly diseases like measles.

Around 39,000, or 2% of Australian parents are permanently resistant to vaccination. But Prof Chubb wants to target the 100,000, or 6%, who are hesitant about vaccination based on suspected side effects the read about on the internet.

“You need to put the facts out there in order to change attitudes, you need a campaign to inform people”, Prof Chubb said. “People my age have stopped smoking because of graphic publicity and education programs”. Prof Chubb pointed to the discredited 1998 Andrew Wakefield (Dr actually, but not mentioned), study  that claimed that there was a link between vaccination and autism.

Australian Medical Association president Professor Brian Owler also supports the idea of a public information campaign. Prof Owler said he found it frustrating to have the autism link still perpetuated.

Comments: Not easy knowing the best place to start. The prime issue is strongly connected to current moves to make mass vaccinations mandatory, generally by penalizing those who refuse.

The subject newspaper article stops short of that aspect and aims at convincing the public that vaccinations, (all apparently, and independent of justifiable need), are safe enough and necessary enough to be considered of great importance.

Perhaps we should accept the medical advice offered in the article in good faith, as an attempt to make unnecessary the mandatory demands planned by our esteemed government. At this stage the benefit of the doubt should be in their favour. But, perhaps not!

Why quibble about this authoritarian demand on the public? For a start, the very fact that it is authoritarian makes it an issue. A worn out and practically meaningless term “un-Australian” comes to mind. Certainly not democratic and certainly not a “fair go” or respecting civil liberties.

Then we need to consider the health benefits claimed by the medical Professors which serve to justify mass immunization, then to analyze the potential health hazards from both non-vaccinating and vaccinating.

Last but not least, there is the issue of the reliability of information gleaned from the internet, and the attack made by the Professors on the credibility of internet information.

There are countless sources of information published on the internet which range from  anecdotal to fully qualified professional opinion and evidence. Ranging from unscientific claims of little value, to scientific evidence that seems to be ignored or incorrectly disputed by mainstream,  which now brings us to the question of the validity of the information offered us by this newspaper article.

Move to educate on vaccination mythsMy question here is, “Who is identifying what is mythical and, is the promotional information itself mythical or factual?

to convince parents to immunize their children.Obviously an agenda, but one which should distinctly be in the children’s favour, and not questionable in any way. Otherwise, the education needs to be about the pros and cons of vaccinating, with the advantages of vaccinating being shown to be superior and justified.

to counter discredited research that is contributing to parents failing to vaccinate their children and is causing the upsurge of deadly diseases like measles.”  What about the possibility that both the claims ofdiscredited research” and “ failing to vaccinate their children and is causing the upsurge of deadly diseases like measlesare false? What if measles, at least in Australia or any other healthy developed country, is not in any relative way, a “deadly disease”?

What if vaccinated children can still catch measles? What if vaccinated people can actually spread measles?

If these questions cannot be answered in the negative, then we have evidence of vaccination myths being promoted by the health experts themselves.

We will come back to that, but other factors also are important. Apparently the current rate of vaccine objectors is of the order of 10%. Why this should unduly worry the authorities is difficult to understand. It is not significantly far from the minimum for their suggested aim of achieving “herd immunity”, another aspect of vaccinating that is not dispute free. It seems likely that they are concerned about the vaccine objectors growing in number and becoming a more powerful influence.

based on suspected side effects the(sic) read about on the internet.Here is an interesting statement. It implies that vaccine side-effects are suspected, but not known. It also implies that only the internet provides such ‘unreliable’ information. Well, in reality, side-effects do exist, are listed on the vaccine drug inserts and legally should be made available to all recipients by the person administering the vaccines. Are these side-effects of significance in their severity and frequency? Yes, more of this later but it is most important to know that the adverse reaction incidents are substantially under-reported and mis-diagnosed as well.

You need to put the facts out there in order to change attitudes,begs the question of the credibility of these ‘facts’. Well, for a start, the facts about side-effects don’t seem to be of interest in this education scheme. (See later).

discredited 1998 Andrew Wakefield”  Dr Wakefield actually, a Doctor who was discredited many years ago by an unscrupulous medical industry backed journalist, BUT, who has been exonerated since and the attack on him shown to be staged.

Then, the main issue of the autism vaccine link. Not only Dr Wakefield, but other scientists have provided absolute proof of a definite causal link, direct or otherwise, a link appears in vaccine inserts, once “autism”, but nowadays surreptitiously renamed “neurological disorders”.

Both Professors are either in ignorance of these facts or conveniently overlooking, or perhaps lying about them!

The references below provide ample proof of the claims being made here.

So what is a reasonable conclusion? Newspaper readers need to be aware that “what you read in the papers” is not guaranteed to be the truth. In my experience, it rarely is. Medical experts, pharmaceutical companies and governments statements and actions need to be very carefully scrutinized, otherwise you risk a trip “up the garden path”.

Of course, I see this all as an extremely serious situation, as a real threat to our public well-being, in fact, the very opposite of what is presented in this paper article. A serious justification for mistrusting authorities and what you read in the newspapers, and of course, view on TV.

Details and relevant evidence refuting the medical “experts” idea of “facts for the public”.

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The Pope’s Encyclical Exposes Real Agenda Behind Global Warming

Ken McMurtrie:

This article has so many important messages that need publicizing.

Perhaps this is best highlighted by the following extracts:

The latest Encyclical by Pope Francis is a revolutionary document in which it appears Pope Francis decided that overpopulation is a bigger problem than Church doctrine, especially when the increased population is industrialized, developed and prosperous. These are exactly the positions underlying the goals of the UN Agenda 21, the White House, and most other nations. Like them, the Encyclical uses global warming as a front for a political agenda. ……….”
“These actions explain Wirth’s truncated comment discussed earlier in which the last phrase shows global warming was just a vehicle for the greater objective of population control.

So, for those interested in facts and truths, this is an enlightening article. Another dimension in the debate about all the issues of global warming, the Church view and its attempt to influence the public. (Not because man is “warming the planet dangerously”, but because overpopulation is counterproductive to the future home comforts of the rich”).
Proof that the alarmist agenda is the major issue, regardless of scientific facts.
[Bold emphasis above, mine).

Originally posted on Watts Up With That?:

Guest opinion: Dr. Tim Ball

Many times quotations are truncated to change the original meaning. When the larger quote is examined, a very different meaning often emerges. For example, most say, “Money is the root of all evil” when the full quote of Timothy 6:10 is “The love of money is the root of all evil”. This addition creates a very different emphasis and perspective. Lord Acton’s quote that “All power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely” is similarly altered by the sentence that follows, “Great men are almost always bad men.” A frequently used quote in the climate debate quotes in “Science Under Siege” by Michael Fumento is Senator Timothy Wirth’s,

“We’ve got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing,

When you add the latter part of the sentence that says…

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This Is Why The Euro Is Finished

Ken McMurtrie:

Perhaps this is why all the economies are finished. They are all based on unrepayable debts, unsustainable growths and consumerism of unnecessary, unproductive, unhealthy products.

That is to say, it already knew back then that the bailout executed in 2010 would push Greece even further into debt. Which is the exact opposite of what the bailout was supposed to do.”

Debt cannot be resolved by borrowing more money. Unless a substantive, complete restructuring of sovereign country economies takes place, this is a one-way street, with a foreseeable end-result of authoritarian control and subservience. (Revised 12:37 5th July 2015)

Originally posted on THE INTERNET POST:

Walker Evans Waterfront in New Orleans. French market sidewalk scene 1935

The IMF Debt Sustainability Analysis report on Greece that came out this week has caused a big stir. We now know that the Fund’s analysts confirm what Syriza has been saying ever since they came to power 5 months ago: Greece needs debt relief, lots of it, and fast.

We also know that Europe tried to silence the report. But what’s most interesting is that this has been going on for months, as per Reuters. Ergo, the IMF has known about the -preliminary- analysis for months, and kept silent, while at the same time ‘negotiating’ with Greece on austerity and bailouts.

And if you dig a bit deeper still, there’s no avoiding the fact that the IMF hasn’t merely known this for months, it’s known it for years. The Greek Parliamentary Debt Committee reported three weeks ago that it…

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The medical link between EMF pollution and ‘unexplainable’ chronic disease symptoms

Ken McMurtrie:

“Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, MD, PhD, founder of Klinghardt Academy, links the ever-increasing exposure to electromagnetic radiation (EMR) with the rapid rise in neurological illnesses like low-level depression, insomnia, chronic fatigue, numbness, tingling and “unexplainable” muscle aches and pains. In fact, Dr. Klinghardt believes that “smart” meters — which are being forced on homeowners as a way to “save energy” (yeah right) — are “the worst invention that we’ve followed in the last 2 years with absolutely devastating consequences.” “

Originally posted on THE INTERNET POST:

‘The health danger of ‘electrical pollution’ is grossly misunderstood by Western medicine. But, for those suffering with the ill effects of electromagnetic frequency (EMF) exposure – this is no laughing matter. If you’re suffering with chronic fatigue, headaches, insomnia, autoimmune disorders or hormonal issues – I strongly suggest you continue reading this article.

Are you suffering from ‘unexplainable’ chronic disease symptoms? On the next NaturalNews Talk Hour, learn about the very real health threats posed by EMF pollution – especially the wiring in your home; commonly used wireless devices and other household electronic devices.’

Read more: The medical link between EMF pollution and ‘unexplainable’ chronic disease symptoms

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Australia’s Double Game on Terrorism

Ken McMurtrie:

Methinks the man protesteth too much.
It seems to me Tony Abbott is an active member of the NWO cabal.
Australia has joined the “anti-terrorist” countries that actively contribute to never-ending terrorism!
See related article – Australian Senate Kills Civil Liberties with Draconian New Anti-Terror Law in Orwellian Orgy of Baseless Fear-Mongering ( )

Originally posted on THE INTERNET POST:

‘The Australian Government is wrestling with a double game it has created by backing sectarian terrorists in Syria, encouraging the export of young Australians to these groups, then entering into a fake war against terrorism and ringing alarm bells over the threat of them returning home.

In the name of anti-terrorism Canberra has cancelled dozens of passports and, more recently, passed a law to strip citizenship from dual citizens believed to be involved with some of the armed groups plaguing Syria and Iraq. Since 2012 about 200 Australian citizens are thought to have joined these groups and several dozen have been killed.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott recently attacked the state-owned Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) for allowing Zaky Mallah, a notorious supporter of anti-Syrian Islamists, to speak on national television. Yet Mallah, who boasts of his close relations Australia’s domestic intelligence, has enjoyed substantial media attention in recent years.’

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Mobile Phones and WiFi are a “Serious Public Health Issue” – Canadian Parliamentary Report

Ken McMurtrie:

“The microwave radiation from our little wireless devices is now (RECOGNIZED AS) a “serious public health issue””
Includes, or should do so, smart meters.

Originally posted on Stop Smart Meters Australia:

OTTAWA, June 18, 2015 /CNW/ – Cancer, infertility, and learning disabilities might be caused by our cell phones and WiFi, according to a new Parliamentary report.

The microwave radiation from our little wireless devices is now a “serious public health issue” according to the report delivered Tuesday by the House of Commons Standing Committee on Health (HESA).

The unanimous report recommends Canadian doctors be taught to recognize the symptoms associated with using common wireless devices.

It also recommends parents be taught the risks of wireless radiation to ensure their families are safe at home and at school.

The Committee heard from wireless industry representatives as well as international scientists working on the health fall-out from our increasingly wireless world.

The Conservatives, Liberals, and NDP agreed that Health Canada has left Canadians at risk by ignoring or dismissing the growing evidence that shows our favourite devices like tablets and smart phones…

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Progress on the problems with Australia’s ACORN-SAT surface air temperature records

Ken McMurtrie:

So many unanswered questions, yet people become dedicated followers of global warming alarmism and its political ramifications.

Originally posted on Watts Up With That?:

acorn-sat overview

Dr David R.B. Stockwell writes, Progress on the surface temperature front as follows:

Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for the Environment Bob Baldwin established a Technical Advisory Forum comprised of leading scientists and statisticians to review  and provide advice on Australia’s official temperature data set in January following recommendations by an independent peer review.

The Forum’s report has been published at

Here are the links to the press articles from the Australian included below

Questions remain on BoM records, The Australian, June 20, 2015
Graham Lloyd

The results of an independent ­review of the Bureau of Mete­or­ology’s national temperature records should “ring alarm bells” for those who had believed the bureau’s methods were transparent, says a key critic, Jennifer ­Marohasy.

Dr Marohasy said the review panel, which recommended that better statistical methods and data handling be adopted, justified many of the concerns raised.

However, the failure to ­address specific issues, such as the exaggerated warming…

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The Climate Wars’ Damage to Science

Ken McMurtrie:

This is the most wonderful article that says so much of what I believe to be reality.
So much factual information and claims.
A pleasure to read and reblog!

Originally posted on Watts Up With That?:

They are behaving like sixteenth-century priests who do not think the Bible should be translated into English. 
Guest essay by Matt Ridley 
(Note: due to the length of this essay, I am only including paragraph excerpts here. See the link at the end for the full essay. – Anthony)

The great thing about science is that it’s self-correcting. The good drives out the bad, because experiments get replicated and hypotheses tested — or so I used to think. Now, thanks largely to climate science, I see bad ideas can persist for decades, and surrounded by myrmidons of furious defenders they become intolerant dogmas

For much of my life I have been a science writer. That means I eavesdrop on what’s going on in laboratories so I can tell interesting stories. It’s analogous to the way art critics write about art, but with a difference: we “science critics”…

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Climate Compensation – It’s Alice in Wonderland Revisited

Ken McMurtrie:

Thank you for this opportunity to both lighten up the atmosphere but tell a real story at the same time!

Originally posted on rhymeafterrhyme:

How to bankrupt the developed world? Take an unproven hypothesis, use fear and ignorance and tax payers money to market it as anthropogenic global warming and raise huge taxes and restrict growth. No warming? OK, re-badge it and re-market it as climate change, use even more fear and  greater ignorance and even more tax payers money to raise even more taxes and restrict growth even further. Still not working? OK, then pay huge amounts of compensation for natural weather occurrences saying that they are man made – yes, that should do it!   

It’s rained before and it’s raining again,
But this time its “climate change”.
Compensation I’ve been promised by President Obama,
So a claim form I need to arrange.

Will Scribe Alice in WonderlandAlthough it has rained many times before,
I think I can claim “extreme” drops.
So I must get my form submitted, quick, quick,
Before this extreme weather stops.


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Ideology is the Problem

I am rudely copying this verbatim for my own benefit. Readers please follow the link  to find an interesting blog.

A philosophy that is not easy to absorb, but the thrust is important to understand, if one’s reasoning is to be sound and our beliefs/decisions more independent from our inner ingrained indoctrination. It is very clear that most people, from “on the street” to politicians and world “movers and shakers” are fueled by idealism and as such, are incapable of impartial, independent decision-making.

Ideology is the Problem

1. a system of ideas and ideals, especially one that forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy.

It is my goal as an intellectual and skeptic to purge myself of all ideology, as much as possible. I have come to understand that it is ideology, in its broadest sense, that is largely the enemy of reason. This includes not only political and economic ideology, but also religious, social, and historical.

At its core, an ideology is something you believe because you believe it. It is a moral and intellectual anchor, as well as a lens through which the world is viewed. I am not implying any sort of equivalency – not all ideologies are created equal. We also come to our ideologies through different paths, some more valid than others. Often we absorb them from our family, our society, and our culture. Genetics may also play a role. We seem to be predisposed to certain political ideologies based upon which values speak to us most loudly. We then take those values as if they were the Truth and proceed from there.

There are even ideologies that we arrive at through valid argument and consideration. I consider scientific skepticism, which values doubt, logic, empiricism, and self-knowledge, as a valid and worthwhile ideology. Even then a belief or value system can be a problem if we treat it like an assumption rather than a conclusion.

Ideologies are more pernicious when they become a source of identity. A challenge to the ideology is then a challenge to the person themselves, to the very core of their being. Ideologies reinforce the worst aspects of our tribal nature, separating the world into us and them – those who have seen the Truth, and those who are mentally deficient or deprived so that they are condemned to wallow in ignorance and confusion.

There is often a moral dimension to ideology. Ideologies make us feel that we are not only correct, we are virtuous, and therefore righteousness compels us to be intolerant of those immoral cretins who offend our ideology.

Ideology also leads to motivated reasoning, to the marshaling of our impressive cognitive abilities not to find the best answer but to defend the answer that the most primitive and emotional parts of our brain have latched onto.  When evidence tends to fit our ideology, we are not motivated to question it. When evidence challenges our ideology, we are very good at finding fault with it.

At this point you are probably nodding in agreement, thinking of all the people in your life who fit the picture I am drawing of the typical ideologue. It is easy to recognize such behavior in others. The real challenge is to recognize it in ourselves. This is because it does not feel like ideology when it is our own beliefs, it feels like Truth.

Ideology is the problem because it leads to closed-mindedness, motivated reasoning, self-righteousness, and political correctness. It tends to stop skeptical inquiry and genuine discourse.

What, then, is the alternative? I think it is best to consider each question unto itself on its own merits. This does not mean ignoring prior probability, or ignoring established science or philosophy. It means considering all of it as objectively as possible. It also means distancing yourself emotionally from any label that might form an identity and serve as a filter for your thinking.

We cannot completely eliminate labels, however. They are useful guideposts and help to organize our thinking. Labels can identify philosophies and principles. For example, I can think about capitalism as a set of ideas and economic principles. I might even consider capitalism to be a valid economic system, and better than the alternatives out there. However, once you cross a fuzzy line to identifying as a capitalist (in philosophy, not vocation) you are motivated to defend capitalism even from legitimate criticism, to downplay its weaknesses, and to view evidence and events through the filter of supporting capitalism.

This is why I no longer identify with any political party. I judge each political issue and candidate on their own merits.

As another example, I would rather say that I accept the current scientific consensus on the validity of evolutionary theory, rather than saying that I am an “evolutionist.”

As an activist skeptic the ideology from which it has been most challenging to distance myself is scientific skepticism. I consider myself a skeptic because that is what I do. I accept the philosophy of scientific skepticism much as I accept the consensus on evolution, because it is supported by logic and evidence. But I have to be careful not to cross the fuzzy line into ideology.

What this means is that I evaluate new claims based upon the relevant science, logic, and evidence, not how it relates to any particular “skeptical” position. It means acknowledging valid arguments even if they are inconvenient for a position that skeptics have traditionally accepted.

In short, I try to treat scientific skepticism as a philosophy rather than an ideology. The difference can be subtle, because superficially both are systems of ideas and principles. Ideology tends to be a fixed top down system of beliefs. Philosophy should be a bottom up system of arguments that is provisional and eternally open to revision.

As a philosophy scientific skepticism is also anti-ideology. It is a system of methods rather than a system of beliefs, and those methods include doubt, self-criticism, and the provisional nature of all knowledge. In fact, in its purest form scientific skepticism holds no beliefs, only the application of methods that form an approach to knowledge. It does not even require the rejection of the supernatural, only adherence to methodological naturalism because science cannot function otherwise. Scientific skepticism is agnostic toward any particular beliefs.

Where language gets tricky is that, as scientific confidence in a particular conclusion mounts the decimal points north of 99% (like, for example, the conclusion that life evolved), accepting the massive scientific probability becomes indistinguishable in everyday practice from “belief.” It is convenient shorthand to say I “believe” in evolution, but really I am saying I accept the overwhelming scientific evidence and thought that leads to the conclusion that life evolved, and there is no alternative theory that is even viable, let alone a serious challenger to evolution. I accept it as an established scientific fact.

But I have to remain open to contrary evidence and the vanishingly small probability that evolution might somehow be wrong, otherwise it becomes an ideology rather than a scientific fact.

It is not easy to be free from ideology. It seems that the human brain slips easily and comfortably into the ideological mode. Rejecting ideology is a high energy state that needs to be forever maintained. The way to do this is by following a valid process rather than specific beliefs, and accepting the provisional nature of all human knowledge.

Of course, if you think I’m wrong I am open to other points of view.

Steven, I sincerely hope that I have not seriously overstepped the responsible mark in sharing your article in this way.

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